What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani regards Senancour as one of his favourite writers and as the one who analysed the mal du siècle with the greatest lucidity, "surgically" or "almost clinically", in the epistolary novel Obermann, which he recommends12. He presents him as an aristocratic pre-Romantic and a disciple of Rousseau. He often quotes his sentence: spring is more beautiful in nature, but man has done so much that autumn is gentler. He sees in it history entering aesthetics and affectivity, the gentle taking precedence over the beautiful34. He also dwells on the voluptuousness of melancholy: a happy, healthy man who is bored and dreads the season of happiness. Depending on the session, he stresses an almost-wish to die or, on the contrary, the absence of any deathly side. He comments on "nothing oppresses me, nothing satisfies me", "love is immense, it is not infinite" and the need for boundless illusions, which he reads as the infinitude of human desire56. He also points to Letter 18, which distinguishes enjoying from being happy, and to the envy felt for the woodcutter who sings as he works.
- 1#1.6 Entre crise et guerre : Philosopher ?10 Dec 2015 · 8:35
- 2#5 Bien-et Mé-faits de l'amnésie...19 Nov 2020 · 9:36
- 3Q comme Qualité31 Dec 2014 · 6:31
- 4La maladie, le malheur, le mal20 Sept 2024 · 1:20:59
- 5#3 • Les Attelé(e)s de la confinitude4 Apr 2020 · 44:30
- 6La mondanité chez Clouscard : Désirer quoi ? Par qui ??3 Sept 2023 · 36:27
Summary produced automatically from 32 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Season 11 · 3 Sept 2023Worldliness in Clouscard: Desiring what? Through whom??- 28:56ObermannLetter 18 distinguishes suffering from being unhappy, enjoying from being happy.
- 36:27ObermannAn unknown, infinite need, greater than love; he needs boundless illusions to go on desiring.
- 47:26ObermannHe shows the contradiction internal to man and envies the woodcutter who sings while working.
- 1:21:47ObermannVoluptuousness of melancholy: autumn is sweeter because spring must return for us.
Season 7 · 4 Apr 2020#3 • Harnessed to confinitude- 35:12ObermannThe pre-romantic who analyzes the mal du siècle with surgical precision: boredom, need for the wild, vitalism of an exhausted world.
- 44:30Obermann"Nothing oppresses me, nothing satisfies me"; an unknown need carries him beyond perishable beings: a call of infinitude.
- 57:20Obermann"Love is immense, it is not infinite"; he wants to hope, to know, to have boundless illusions.
- 1:02:24ObermannThe voluptuousness of melancholy; autumn gentler than spring because man has put his history into it.
Season 13 · 20 Sept 2024Sickness, misfortune, evil- 1:12:15ObermannNo one has analyzed the mal du siècle with such lucidity: he asks where the voluptuousness of melancholy comes from.
- 1:17:06ObermannAutumn is delightful because nature dies before we do and spring must still come for us.
- 1:20:59Obermann"Man has done so much that autumn is sweeter": the historical dimension emerges here; the sweet takes precedence over the beautiful.
- 1:34:54ObermannHis final sentence brings a kind of appeasement, which Rimbaud goes beyond.
Season 9.1 · 19 Nov 2020#5 Benefits and harms of amnesia...- 9:36ObermannNo one has gone as far in the almost clinical analysis of the mal du siècle.
- 44:40Pre-Romantic at the boundary of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, a well-off aristocrat, follower of Rousseau.
- 49:20ObermannA comfortable situation and a sad life: there is the infinite between what he is and what he needs to be; love is not infinite.
- 1:13:57ObermannHe does not want to enjoy but to hope; he needs boundless illusions: the infinitude of human desire.
Series · 20 May 2022Dominique Pagani - Who is hiding beneath the surfaces? Aesthetics and politics- 1:16:17ObermannSpring is more beautiful in nature, but man has done so much that autumn is gentler.
Series · 11 Dec 2020Musicosophy 5. Happiness versus the death drive in music- 1:18:36Obermann"I only love the evening"; "man has done so much that autumn is sweeter": without a deathly side.
Talks · 20 Jul 2018Education: can the Beautiful be learned?- 42:04ObermannHe analyzed the malady of the century: spring is more beautiful in nature, but man has done so much that autumn is sweeter.
Season 2 · 18 Feb 2016#2.3 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?- 1:00:32ObermannA pre-romantic who analyzes the voluptuousness of melancholy: autumn sweeter because man has done so much; he dreads the season of happiness.
- 1:13:27Almost a longing for death in his praise of autumn.
Series · 29 Jan 2016What is to be done? 3/3- 1:10:15ObermannA disciple of Rousseau: "spring is more beautiful in nature, but man has done so much that autumn is sweeter."
Season 1 · 28 Jan 2016#1.8 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?- 1:36:03ObermannThe finest analysis of the mal du siècle: happy, in good health, and bored; a poetry of autumn.
Season 1 · 10 Dec 2015#1.6 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?- 8:35ObermannThe one who analyzed the mal du siècle most surgically, in his epistolary novel Obermann.
Series · 31 Dec 2014Q for Quality- 6:31Former owner of the estate; his phrase about autumn made milder by man shows history integrated into aesthetics and affectivity.
Season 10 · 10 Feb 2022#9 PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION: Art, seen from here or from the other side?- 2:29:14ObermannSpring is more beautiful in nature, but autumn is gentler.
Series · 4 Oct 2021#4 Nomad and sedentary - The case of Nerval- 23:53ObermannThe one who best characterized the mal du siècle, with clinical lucidity; an epistolary novel recommended.
Season 9.2 · 9 Jun 20219 #23 "Ruled like music paper!" • Bach • Nerval • Lévi-Strauss- 1:01:24Among the romantics.
Series · 3 Dec 2020Musicosophy 2. From Lévi-Strauss to Nerval on music- 1:16:56Pre-romantic aristocrat.
Season 7 · 11 Apr 2020#4 • Harnessed to confinitude- 1:07:39The mal du siècle, dissected in an earlier session.
Season 6 · 10 Nov 2019#6.1-1/2 - Prelude • D.Pagani / Lacan: Function and field of speech and language- 42:17Passage listed.
Season 6 · 23 Oct 2019#6.1 • The Logic of the Subject • season 6 / 2019-20- 47:21His favorite, the one who best expressed the mal du siècle.
Season 4 · 12 Apr 2018#4.7 Angélique (by Nerval)- 1:27:25Spring is more beautiful in nature, but autumn sweeter for what man has made of it.
Season 4 · 15 Mar 2018#4.6 Angélique (by Nerval)- 48:48One of his favorite writers.
Season 4 · 12 Nov 2017#4.2 Angélique (by Nerval)- 1:15:59Spring is more beautiful in nature, but man has made autumn sweeter.