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What Dominique Pagani says

Dominique Pagani takes from Michel Clouscard a criterion that he repeats from 2012 to 2025: classes come down to two, the one that produces more than it consumes and the one that consumes more than it produces. In his view, this division is measurable and has nothing of a moral invective about it1. For him, class cannot be reduced to income. It arises from the social division of labour and belongs to historical inheritance, not to heredity2. It also affects education, language, and aesthetic and romantic choices. He uses Rousseau and Proust to show that the class relation determines even the object of desire3. He sets this concept against identities of race, colour or sex, which in his view replace class struggle and carry civil war among the poor. He says that his experience of Africa made him understand that class matters more than race4. He also stresses the working class, which has become a "phantom class": it has not disappeared, it has been lost from view5. Finally, he recalls that Marx aims at the abolition of classes.

  1. 1#3.6 D'Ulysse à Dédale1 Aug 2017 · 1:23:38
  2. 2Avec Clouscard2 Aug 2016 · 33:08
  3. 3Dominique Pagani : De la débauche du sens à l'orgie du sentiment29 May 2023 · 1:55:27
  4. 4N comme Niger28 Dec 2014 · 4:31
  5. 5TOUT EST PERMIS, RIEN N'EST POSSIBLE ! Michel Clouscard, Mai 68 et le capitalisme de la séduction14 Jul 2021 · 48:10

Summary produced automatically from 61 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.

Series · 2 Aug 2016With Clouscard
  1. 28:28Class is not a matter of income: there are always two classes, the one that produces more than it consumes and the one that consumes more than it produces.
  2. 33:08The social division of labor produces classes. They belong to the code of our historical heritage, not to heredity, and the goal is a classless society.
Series · 28 Dec 2014N for Niger
  1. 4:31It was through his relation to Africa that he grasped that class relations are more decisive than relations of race, colour or identity.
  2. 6:32Over there, class relations are frank: having money means security and an exit from nothingness, without even needing seduction.
Series · 7 Jul 2012Radio Galère - Michel Clouscard - 2
  1. 5:11With the middle strata, class conflict is internalized: the same people work and consume, now slaves, now masters; to enjoy myself, I exploit myself.
  2. 46:39Workers disappear from the field of vision though there have never been so many of them: the class in itself and the class for itself.

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