What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani sees The Rite of Spring as the break that opens the music of the 20th century. Coming from the Asian edges of Europe and premiered in Paris by the Ballets Russes, the Rite sweeps away impressionism and the fin-de-siècle atmosphere. He compares it to Les Demoiselles d'Avignon1 and sees in it the break with Isolde's death2. For Stravinsky, being modern means seeking out deep, forgotten archaisms: brutality, pagan rituals, the rhythmic whiplash3. He reports that, according to Adorno, the Rite is a false modern next to Schoenberg; for his part, he finds that the work has not aged and does not lump it together with neoclassical pastiches such as Pulcinella45. He also takes up the objectivist view of the performer: Stravinsky asks performers to play what is written, but he adds that tempo cannot be entirely prescribed6. He recalls that Stravinsky defends Tchaikovsky as the most secretly Russian of composers. Finally, he links the Rite to the "crueller" music that Nietzsche foresaw.
- 1Musicosophie 8. Bonheur et malheur en musique11 Jan 2021 · 1:22:36
- 2Musicosophie 5. Bonheur contre pulsion de mort en musique11 Dec 2020 · 1:14:20
- 3Musicosophie 3. Qu'appelle-t-on une musique moderne?3 Dec 2020 · 43:14
- 4Musicosophie 3. Qu'appelle-t-on une musique moderne?3 Dec 2020 · 24:29
- 5Musicosophie 3. Qu'appelle-t-on une musique moderne?3 Dec 2020 · 30:05
- 6Musicosophie 17. L'interprétation25 Mar 2021 · 1:16:21
Summary produced automatically from 42 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Series · 3 Dec 2020Musicosophy 3. What is called modern music?- 24:29The Rite of SpringThe Rite marks a before and after; Adorno considers it a false modern compared to Schoenberg.
- 30:05PulcinellaThe neoclassical pastiches cannot be put in the same bag as the Rite.
- 43:14PetrushkaFor him, being modern means going to seek deep forgotten archaisms.
- 1:34:57PetrushkaPastes a song from the working-class suburbs onto avant-garde harmonies, like cubist collage.
Series · 15 Jun 2022TCHAIKOVSKY - FROM THE STEPPES TO THE MIDWEST • Pagani Parle Musique- 11:35The Rite of SpringThe Rite of Spring opens contemporary music with an irreversible break; its Parisian premiere unleashes a scandal.
- 13:08Hardly suspect of bad taste, he judges Tchaikovsky misunderstood because he is the most secretly Russian.
Series · 11 Jan 2021Musicosophy 8. Happiness and unhappiness in music- 1:20:11Rules over the postwar period; he asks the conductor to play what is written, a return to neoclassical rigor.
- 1:22:36The Rite of SpringA rupture comparable to Les Demoiselles d'Avignon; it opens with a bassoon in the extreme high register.
Series · 11 Dec 2020Musicosophy 5. Happiness versus the death drive in music- 13:26Defends Tchaikovsky as the most profoundly Russian of composers, escaping Western lovers of Moscow picturesqueness.
- 1:14:20The Rite of SpringThe Rite has not aged a day; his later works are less innovative; he embodies the break with Isolde's death.
- 1:22:50Example of an elaborate return to rhythmic whip-crack.
Series · 25 Mar 2021Musicosophy 17. Interpretation- 1:02:35Met in the salons of the Princesse de Polignac.
- 1:16:21Objectivist: he asks the interpreter to execute what is written, but tempo can never be entirely prescribed.
Series · 28 Jan 2021Musicosophy 12. Nietzsche (right up) against Wagner- 6:34The Rite of SpringRenewal through archaism: brutality, pagan rituals, the sacrifice of a young girl.
Series · 24 Jan 2021Musicosophy 11. Modal and tonal music- 11:05The Rite of SpringHis works premiered in Paris; "I gave back to Russia what Debussy had taken from it."
- 1:29:50Liquidator of tonality through polytonality and extra-European modes.
Season 7 · 11 Apr 2020#4 • Harnessed to confinitude- 1:02:17The Rite of SpringComing from Europe's Asian border, he makes impressionism explode in 1913; it has since become a classic of formal perfection.
Talks · 26 Apr 2015The Music of History- 24:11Petrushkatransfigures the din of the fairground into elaborate sounds
Series · 7 Feb 2023Nietzsche, or the Great Ninny - Readings on the Spot- 6:51The Rite of SpringOne senses him coming in the crueler music announced by Nietzsche.
Series · 13 Jul 2022BARTÓK - THE UNHEARD-OF SOUND • Pagani Parle Musique- 2:47Initiator, along with the Russians, of the contemporary path that borrows sounds from elsewhere.
Season 10 · 23 Jun 2022#15 Nietzsche: Philosophical or musical relevance? Answers to questions- 1:33:59The Rite of SpringAvant-garde rupture that Nietzsche senses.
Series · 22 Jun 2022FROM BACH TO THE PYGMIES • Pagani Parle Musique- 14:03Elaborate music in which a Cossack dance sequence nonetheless emerges.
Season 10 · 10 Feb 2022#9 PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION: Art, seen from here or from the other side?- 2:29:56Counter-example to the decline after 1848.
Season 10 · 8 Dec 202110#6 War and Peace: "The death drives advance in silence..." (Freud)- 35:49Cited among the creators of contemporary music brought to light by the Ballets Russes.
Season 10 · 6 Oct 202110#2 Dialectics of identity and difference- 33:22Contemporary of Prokofiev, emigrated to California.
Season 9.2 · 9 Jun 20219 #23 "Ruled like music paper!" • Bach • Nerval • Lévi-Strauss- 1:52:30Les Noces (The Wedding)Pagan work, primitive Russian, a revelation for Lévi-Strauss.
Season 9.2 · 3 Apr 20219 #18 Twilight of the Gods, or from repetition to liberation- 10:54The Rite of SpringAn example of a large-scale work betrayed by computer sound.
Series · 31 Mar 2021Wagner and his interpreters, Approaching Clouscard, Marx = Theseus? • Philosophical Q&A • Pagani- 24:23PetrushkaBallet of dazzling orchestration that demands vivid, colorful sound recording.
Series · 10 Mar 2021Musicosophy 16. Programme music / Pure music- 44:18The Rite of SpringSweeps away the fin-de-siècle atmosphere and its moonlight.
Series · 2 Feb 2021Musicosophy 13. Mozart restored- 34:08Rivalry with Schoenberg.
Series · 18 Jan 2021Musicosophy 10. The two Klemperers and Bruno Walter in Wagner- 21:24The Rite of SpringDecisive works created in Paris thanks to Diaghilev's ballets.
Series · 3 Dec 2020Musicosophy 2. From Lévi-Strauss to Nerval on music- 7:54Example of a neoclassicism that contributes something.
- 14:10The Rite of SpringThe protests at the premiere recall Rousseau's "modern din."
Series · 3 Dec 2020Musicosophy 4. Sound ghettos- 14:55"I gave back to Russia what Debussy had taken from it."
Series · 3 Dec 2020Musicosophy 1. Schubert and the master singers- 35:42Foreshadowed by the scene between Beckmesser and Sachs in the third act.
Season 9.1 · 26 Nov 2020#6 Presentation of the dominiquepagani.fr website- 35:26Has a playlist under his name.
Season 7 · 4 Apr 2020#3 • Harnessed to confinitude- 9:38The Rite of SpringCited among the creations of the Ballets Russes in Paris, a Russian root of contemporary music.
Talks · 26 Feb 2019La Fausse Note (English Subtitles), a film by Aliocha- 8:32Among the composers shaken by their first contact with jazz.
Season 4 · 14 Jun 2018#4.9 Angélique (by Nerval)- 58:55The Rite of SpringCreated within the framework of the Ballets russes.
Season 4 · 12 Apr 2018#4.7 Angélique (by Nerval)- 1:28:06The Rite of SpringInaugurates twentieth-century music.
Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017#3.2 From Ulysses to Daedalus- 1:06:01An initiator of contemporary music, with the cult of Beethoven.
Season 2 · 18 Feb 2016#2.3 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?- 1:47:54The Rite of SpringThe Russians pounding the table against an exhausted old Europe.
Series · 7 Jul 2012Radio Galère - Michel Clouscard - 2- 30:27Refused to receive Charlie Parker.