Unconscious

inconscient

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What Dominique Pagani says

Dominique Pagani defines the psychic unconscious, which Freud posited and which caused a scandal, as a third term between thought and extension: "thoughts that I do not think and wills that I do not will"1. He distinguishes it from organic involuntary processes, which have long been known, and recalls that Rimbaud expresses it before Freud ("I is another") and that Hegel already anticipates it. For him, unconscious does not mean unknowable: the unconscious constantly expresses itself through slips of the tongue, parapraxes (the forgetting of "aliquis") and language, which says more than one thinks2. He also speaks of a linguistic and cultural unconscious, such as the AABA structure in music, distinct from Jung's collective unconscious. Following Clouscard, he posits an "unconscious of the unconscious", historical and class-based, which keeps the syntax of psychoanalysis but with a different content3 and which regulates the sexual unconscious, though not the other way round4. He illustrates it with Racine, Nerval and Wagner5.

Summary produced automatically from 61 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.

Season 13 · 6 Feb 2025On the anti-Sovietism of the Khmer Rouge-Greens

58:00Before Freud and Marx, Hegel designates the gap between what the will believes it wants and what it achieves.

Season 13 · 2 Dec 2024Evil, or the "unknowing" of the self

29:07Hippolytus believed he had no unconscious; love reveals it to him.
48:56In memory, something deep within us prevents us from returning to where the effort to remember would want to reach.

Season 12 · 1 Apr 2024The quest for the Grail, sanctimony or sacrilege?

1:54:22Klingsor, who does not appear to the outside world, can be taken for the unconscious: when he shows himself to the adversary, he is already lost.

Season 12 · 18 Feb 2024Secularism, the truth of religion?

1:45:55Between res cogitans and res extensa, modernity discovers a third term: thoughts one does not think; there is also a class unconscious.

Season 11 · 22 Jul 2023Worldliness in Clouscard - The world as "cunning of reason"

55:17In Hegel, the image kept in the night of spirit is unconscious; the notion does not begin with Freud.

Season 11 · 14 Oct 2022Clouscard and the problem of Socrates

36:04Saying "a flower" connotes eros and quickly suggests an unconscious.
37:49Everyday language is rich with everything we dare not say to ourselves.

Season 10 · 10 Jun 2022#14 Caves of Yesterday and Today - From Plato to modernity

56:31It is in addressing the other that aspects of oneself of which one was unaware are expressed; words say more than one thinks.

Season 10 · 24 Feb 2022#10 UKRAINE: From the problem of "Edges" to the unleashing of war

6:33It is when we believe we trust chance that we are most the prey of necessity; one must trust signifiers.
14:22Aricie's reply, seemingly beside the point, betrays her unconscious attraction to Theseus.

Series · 6 Feb 2022The feminism of the privileged, puritanical censorship of femininity - Molière, Clouscard, Wagner

24:27Elsa is the unconscious, the involuntary in which the conscious and voluntary being of Lohengrin desires to resolve itself.

Series · 4 Oct 2021#4 Nomad and sedentary - The case of Nerval

15:24Behind a disjointed text, the invariant of arrest insists on being heard, even if it means repeating itself.

Season 9.2 · 30 Jun 20219 #24 "Ruled like music paper!" • Nerval • Baudelaire • Part 2

43:08The Senufo bird that transmits thought before it is consciously retained is a metaphor for the unconscious that expresses itself despite repression.

Season 9.2 · 28 Apr 20219 #20 From SIGNAL to SIGN • Einstein

15:42The involuntary organic, reflex or digestion, has long been known; this is not Freud's discovery.
18:53The psychic unconscious: there are within me thoughts I do not think and desires I do not want.

Series · 18 Apr 2021#2 Lenin, or the wings of dreams

10:38The ideological cover of the class unconscious contains and regulates the sexual unconscious, without reciprocity.

Series · 31 Mar 2021Wagner and his interpreters, Approaching Clouscard, Marx = Theseus? • Philosophical Q&A • Pagani

1:12:15Hippolyte's strangeness to himself and the coincidence of the six months reveal the repression of desire during the father's absence.
1:14:15Freud and Lacan's individual unconscious is included within the historico-social unconscious opened up by Marx.

Series · 17 Dec 2020Musicosophy 7. The Greeks, myth and music

25:27Clouscard's unconscious of the unconscious keeps the syntax of psychoanalysis, displacement and condensation, with a different content.

Season 9.1 · 17 Dec 2020#9 Benefits and harms of amnesia...

1:26:37To the Freudian unconscious is added the Clouscardian unconscious, the unconscious of the unconscious, which reinforces in a prince the claim to an individuality beyond the ordinary.

Season 9.1 · 23 Oct 2020#2 Benefits and harms of amnesia...

1:08:05Linguistic unconscious: language links dawn to doves through the whiteness of alba, without our knowing it.

Season 8 · 30 May 2020#9 • Return to the logics of the subject

5:51The subject is the whole iceberg; consciousness is only its faint emerged part.
16:49The immanent punishment of an unrecognized crime illustrates the unconscious.
18:37The bird that escapes from the head to carry my thoughts to the other: image of the slip and the parapraxis.

Season 7 · 17 May 2020#8 • Harnessed to confinitude

51:51Repression produces the unconscious; to repress, one must have seen the truth at some point, then give oneself time not to think about it.
1:09:30In Nerval, no force other than that of the subject blurs the dream at the moment the secret is about to be revealed.

Season 6 · 19 Feb 2020#6.5 • The Logic of the Subject in the face of the reconstitution of Nazism

14:27The return of the repressed rises like a balloon pushed under water, rarely calm and often in monstrous form.

Season 6 · 10 Nov 2019#6.1-1/2 - Prelude • D.Pagani / Lacan: Function and field of speech and language

18:29It insists on making itself heard through slips and parapraxes.
40:52Thoughts I do not think and wishes I do not want: a third term between thought and extension.

Season 5.1 · 2 Nov 2018#5.1 bis FaceBook Live / Questions

59:44He prefers to speak of a class unconscious, unconscious of the very unconscious of the psychoanalyst; knowing oneself comes at a cost.

Series · 5 Jul 2018Being and Code

33:41The unconscious of the unconscious is the historical and class unconscious, more repressed still than the Freudian unconscious.

Season 4 · 14 Jun 2018#4.9 Angélique (by Nerval)

1:00:45Intentions that reveal themselves only in their fulfillment or their failure; the forgetting of "aliquis" shows a rigor down to the smallest detail.

Season 2 · 1 Aug 2017#2.5 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?

0:36Rimbaud expresses it before it is modeled by Freud: "I is another."
1:27:58Freud scandalizes by positing a psychic, no longer physical, unconscious: thoughts one does not think, wills one does not will.
1:55:02Modern synthesis: it is the unconscious that must be expressed, totality more than ever.

Season 2 · 1 Aug 2017#2.7 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?

11:31The modern subject includes, between thought and the body, thoughts that I do not think and volitions that I do not will.
26:07There exists a cultural unconscious, due to history, distinct from the sexual unconscious: the AABA structure is in our code, not in our blood.

Season 3 · 1 Aug 2017#3.2 From Ulysses to Daedalus

1:19:50With Baudelaire, the subject returns deepened by the unconscious and the body, absent from the romantic subject.
1:32:24"I is another": what the romantic believed to be the self is only a small part of it.

Season 2 · 1 Aug 2017#2.6 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?

1:19:50We move from the psychological Freudian unconscious to the historical order: the unconscious of the unconscious.
1:26:12Class unconscious: sexuality is determined by it, as the desire of Minos's daughters is determined by Theseus's heroic aura.
1:57:18Canons of beauty (paleness, tanning, weight) belong to class unconscious and valorize the liberating element.

Series · 2 Aug 2016With Clouscard

45:50The unconscious of the unconscious: the Freudian unconscious is worked upon by a historical class unconscious, already present in Marx in the determined relations, independent of will.

Season 2 · 10 Mar 2016#2.4 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?

28:35The unconscious is neither body nor soul: where to place it?
39:58The psychic unconscious means that I have thoughts I do not think and desires I do not want. It is a third term.

Series · 1 Feb 2016Marx on the Beach 1/2

9:13According to Clouscard, the Freudian unconscious has production, praxis, as its unconscious: class struggle is the core of the unconscious of the unconscious.
21:42Relations independent of the will play in Marx an underground role analogous to Freud's unconscious; involuntary and unconscious are here equivalent.
56:57Unconscious does not mean unknowable: it is proper to the inside to externalize itself, to express itself.

Series · 29 Jan 2016What is to be done? 3/3

53:17An unconscious of praxis, political and economic, precedes the Freudian unconscious: one does not willingly enter into relation with someone who has walked the streets.

Season 1 · 10 Dec 2015#1.4 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?

1:20:46Reflective judgment implies a theory of the unconscious: one does not know what one wants.

Season 1 · 10 Dec 2015#1.6 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?

1:35:22It is not a matter of reading between the lines: everything is in the lines, the unconscious spends its time expressing itself.
1:49:44Parapraxes are often successes; the unconscious can be very precise, as the forgetting of aliquis shows.

Season 1 · 14 Sept 2015#1.3 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?

10:41The linguistic unconscious of French speakers accounts for metaphors: the poet expresses more than he thinks.

Talks · 8 Aug 2015Mythology and Truth

41:16Birds and wings on the head figure the thoughts of the unconscious escaping toward the other.
45:43The forge and the underground world figure the subconscious, what lies beneath.

Talks · 26 Apr 2015The Music of History

46:17We say more than we think; expression is richer than the part that was consciously thought.
51:41An unconscious that is common to us, distinct from Jung's collective unconscious.
55:30Structures like AABA are completely unconscious in us and allow for anticipation.

Series · 1 Jan 2015R for Reverie

5:16In reverie, consciousness remains while the unconscious brings a richness of determination, because the censorship of active life relaxes.

Series · 29 Dec 2014O for Opposition

8:00The Freudian unconscious has an unconscious, history and class struggle, as determining as individual problems.