Season 11 · 3 Sept 2023Worldliness in Clouscard: Desiring what? Through whom??Collective
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What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani distinguishes collective ends from individual ends: a purely personal end has no meaning, and being able to set collective ends is a cultural achievement1. He also separates the collective from the crowd. The crowd is chaos, while the collective is the city trying to organise itself. He links it above all to Hölderlin's line "no one bore life alone". What the poet regrets, in his view, is not Greek beauty but the collective, which makes finitude bearable2. He also sees in it a longing for sharing with strangers, the opposite of communitarianism3. Since the Greek collective was reserved for a few free men, the task is to extend it to everyone4. He adds that in the world of scarcity, local solidarity weighs heavily, whereas today community can be chosen rather than endured. Finally, he describes three moments: substantial society, the crisis in which the individual separates, then the return of a collective extended to the universal. In between, the collective goes into exile in inwardness, notably through instrumental music5.
- 1#1.4 Entre crise et guerre : Philosopher ?10 Dec 2015 · 1:34:42
- 2Dominique Pagani - Hölderlin, poésie et politique19 Mar 2022 · 43:28
- 3#5 • Les Attelé(e)s de la confinitude18 Apr 2020 · 1:26:55
- 4Dominique Pagani - Hölderlin, poésie et politique19 Mar 2022 · 1:15:54
- 5La mondanité chez Clouscard : Désirer quoi ? Par qui ??3 Sept 2023 · 1:39:15
Summary produced automatically from 16 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Season 11 · 3 Sept 2023Worldliness in Clouscard: Desiring what? Through whom??
Season 11 · 29 Jun 2023Worldliness in Clouscard: Aragon and the positivity of the negative
Talks · 19 Mar 2022Dominique Pagani - Hölderlin, poetry and politics
Series · 11 Jan 2021Musicosophy 8. Happiness and unhappiness in music- 57:29In a world of scarcity, the weight of the collective and of local solidarity is greater, with a high price to pay.
Season 8 · 11 Jun 2020#10 • Return to the logics of the subject
Season 7 · 18 Apr 2020#5 • Harnessed to confinitude- 1:26:55"No one was alone in bearing life": nostalgia for a sharing with strangers, the opposite of communitarianism and the bourgeois bubble.
Season 5.2 · 26 Mar 2019#5.5 Nature or Landscape?
Season 4 · 4 Feb 2018#4.4B Objections to Dominique Pagani- 15:34Clan solidarity is necessary in an age of scarcity; material means today allow for the chosen community rather than the endured one.
Talks · 19 Jun 2016At the bistro with Pagani: part 2- 12:39Rousseau survives because he knows the collective is decisive; the romantics lost this solution.
Season 1 · 10 Dec 2015#1.4 Between crisis and war: Philosophising?- 1:34:42One must distinguish individual finality from collective finality; a personal end has no meaning, setting collective ends is a cultural achievement.