Talks · 29 May 2023Dominique Pagani: From the debauchery of sense to the orgy of sentimentArtificial
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What Dominique Pagani says
Dominique Pagani starts from language, which opposes the natural to the artificial. Yet "artistic" and "artificial" share the word "art", which makes the very idea of natural beauty problematic1. He links art to the Greek technè: the Greeks did not separate art from technique2. From this perspective, the wheat field and the Romanesque chapel are equally artificial, because they are products of technè3. He concludes that the human world is artifice, not nature. He therefore proposes to distinguish natural matter from historical matter4. He finds this idea in Baudelaire, whose artificialism he presents by recalling that art, artifice and artisan share the same root5. In Baudelaire, fashion is an attempt to reform nature, and art accomplishes what nature cannot complete6. Against an indifferent nature that reclaims the ground of art, he adds that the thirst for knowledge remains the driving force of all activity7.
- 1Education : le Beau s'apprend-il ?20 Jul 2018 · 9:05
- 2Staël (Mme de )26 May 2019 · 29:18
- 3Saint Jean30 Jun 2019 · 7:17
- 49 #14 Comment des sciences de l'histoire peuvent-elles être réelles?5 Feb 2021 · 1:41:28
- 5Dominique Pagani : De la débauche du sens à l'orgie du sentiment29 May 2023 · 2:15:43
- 6Dominique Pagani : De la débauche du sens à l'orgie du sentiment29 May 2023 · 2:30:00
- 79 #24 "C'est réglé comme du papier à musique !" • Nerval • Baudelaire • 2ème partie30 Jun 2021 · 1:14:56
Summary produced automatically from 7 of the passages below, to be reviewed; the numbers link to the moment in the session.
Talks · 29 May 2023Dominique Pagani: From the debauchery of sense to the orgy of sentiment
Season 9.2 · 30 Jun 20219 #24 "Ruled like music paper!" • Nerval • Baudelaire • Part 2- 1:14:56Against indifferent nature reclaiming the ground of art, the thirst for knowledge remains eternal, the driving force of all activity.
Season 9.2 · 5 Feb 20219 #14 How can sciences of history be real?- 1:41:28The human world is artifice, technè: neither the wheat field nor the Romanesque chapel is nature. One must speak of natural matter and historical matter.
Season 5.2 · 30 Jun 2019#5.8 Nature or Landscape?- 7:17The wheat field and the Romanesque chapel are artificial, products of art in the Greek sense of techne.
Season 5.2 · 26 May 2019#5.7 Nature or Landscape?- 29:18Langue opposes the natural to the artificial; art translates the Greek technè, which the Greeks did not oppose to technique.
Talks · 20 Jul 2018Education: can the Beautiful be learned?- 9:05In language, natural is opposed to artificial; artistic and artificial both contain "art": speaking of natural beauty thus becomes problematic.