Mahler

What Dominique Pagani says

Dominique Pagani ranks Mahler among the three great post-Wagnerians and considers him the most popular of them: a fervent Wagnerian, a Jew from Mitteleuropa and Bruno Walter's teacher1. He places him in Freud's Vienna, which he says he adores, among the neurotic geniuses who passed through the analyst's couch2. What he draws from him is the haunting return of the Volkslied and the way his Lieder treat the great orchestral machine as chamber music3. He comes back several times to the Ninth, Mahler's symphonic testament, and to the curse of the number 9 handed down from Beethoven, which pushes him to sketch a tenth4. He discusses its final slow movement, a contemplative ecstasy that he prefers under Klemperer's baton. He links the revival of Mahler, who was scorned in the 1950s, to the film Death in Venice and to the return of mass unemployment5. In 2022, speaking of the Second Symphony, he calls him a musician of decadence who reaches peaks of musicality, though not without longueurs6. Earlier, however, he had pointed out that his symphonies, thought to be long, last under an hour.

1. 1Wagner et ses interprètes, L'accès à Clouscard, Marx = Thésée? • Q&A Philosophique • Pagani31 Mar 2021 · 43:23
2. 2Mann (Thomas)23 Oct 2019 · 1:30:24
3. 3Musicosophie 5. Bonheur contre pulsion de mort en musique11 Dec 2020 · 1:16:00
4. 4Musicosophie 10. Les deux Klemperer et Bruno Walter dans Wagner18 Jan 2021 · 14:29
5. 5Musicosophie 8. Bonheur et malheur en musique11 Jan 2021 · 1:53:46
6. 6#9 TABLEAUX D'UNE EXPOSITION : L'art, vu d'ici ou d'en face?10 Feb 2022 · 2:35:53

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